Let P_1, P_2, P_3 be closed polygons on the plane. Suppose that for any points A in P_1 (meaning A can be inside or on the boudary of P_1), B in P_2, C in P_3, we have [ABC] leq 1. Is it possible that two of P_1, P_2, P_3 have area geq 4? What about all three having area geq 4?

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2022-11-08

Bounded area for any triangle formed by polygons
Let P 1 , P 2 , P 3 be closed polygons on the plane. Suppose that for any points A P 1 (meaning A can be inside or on the boudary of P 1 ), B P 2 , C P 3 , we have [ A B C ] 1. Is it possible that two of P 1 , P 2 , P 3 have area 4? What about all three having area 4?
Here, [X] denotes the area of the polygon X.

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Neil Short

Neil Short

Beginner2022-11-09Added 17 answers

Step 1
The following is an argument that two polygons can have area of 4. We will work with circles and at the end replace them by many-sided polygons.
Let C1 and C2 be circles centered at the origin both of radius r and C3, a circle also at the origin of radius s for s r. Pick A in C3, B in C1 and C in C2 so the triangle has largest area with these conditions imposed. By symmetry we can pick A to have coordinates (0,-s), B to have coordinates (r cos x, r sin x) and C to have coordinates (- r cos x, r sin x) for some angle x between 0 and pi/2.
Let q = s / r. Then straightforward calculations show that the area of triangle ABC is r 2 ( q + sin x ) cos x. In order to have maximum area its derivative with respect to x is 0. This gives the equation:
cos 2 x = q sin x + cos x sin x .
Step 2
We want the area of triangle ABC to be 1, so 1 = r 2 ( q + sin x ) cos x .
We now ask if there is a solution to these two equations where π r 2 = 4. Eliminating r and q from these now three equations, we get the equation:
π / 4 = ( cos 2 x / sin x cos x + sin x ) cos x .
The expression on the right is infinity at x = 0 and 0 at 0 at x = π / 2, so by continuity it does have a solution.
Excel tells me that when x is > 0.45 radians roughly then q is less than 1 and when x is > 0.5 radians roughly the expression on the right above is approximately π / 4. So there is a solution for x approximately .5 radians.
Now replace the circles by polygons with many sides approximating them to get the final conclusion.
I suspect there is no solution for all three polygons but don’t know how to proceed.

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