Determine the irrational numbers x such that both x^2+2x and x^3−6x are rational numbers

Zackary Diaz

Zackary Diaz

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2022-11-18

Determine the irrational numbers x such that both x and x 3 6 x are rational numbers

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metodikkf6z

metodikkf6z

Beginner2022-11-19Added 14 answers

Suppose q = x 2 + 2 x is rational.
Then, by the quadratic formula, x = 2 ± 4 + 4 q 2 = 1 ± α , where α = q + 1 can be any rational number that is not a perfect square (since x is irrational).
Now,
x 3 6 x = ( 1 ± α ) 3 6 ( 1 ± α ) = ± α 3 / 2 3 α 3 α + 5
will be rational if and only if α 3 / 2 3 α is (since the other terms are always rational). But this is equal to α ( α 3 ). Since α 3 is rational and α irrational, the entire quantity will be rational iff it is zero: that is, iff α = 3.
Thus the numbers x that satisfy the condition are 1 ± 3
pighead73283r

pighead73283r

Beginner2022-11-20Added 5 answers

Suppose x 2 + 2 x = q 1 and x 3 6 x = q 2 with q 1 , q 2 Q . Clearly [ Q ( x ) : Q ] = 2. Thus the polynomial t 2 + 2 t q 1 divides t 3 6 t q 2 ; that is, there exists some α such that
t 3 6 t q 2 = ( t 2 + 2 t + q 1 ) ( t α ) = t 3 + ( 2 α ) t 2 + ( q 1 2 α ) t α q 1 .
Equating corresponding coefficients of t n gives α = 2, q 1 = 2 , and q 2 = 4. Thus both polynomials are rational iff x 2 + 2 x + 2 = 0; that is, iff x = 1 ± 3 .

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