Implicit differentiation: ln(1+xy)=xy

roletatx

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2022-08-28

ln ( 1 + x y ) = x y
When I try to implicitly differentiate this I get
1 1 + x y ( y + x y ) = (y + xy')
At which point the ( y + x y ) terms cancel out, leaving no y to solve for.
However, the answer to this is y x ... How do you get this?

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tkaljegs

tkaljegs

Beginner2022-08-29Added 9 answers

You can only cancel the y + x y terms if that is not equal to zero, otherwise you're dividing by zero. Assuming that is not equal to zero gets you
1 1 + x y = 1
so 1 + x y = 1, or x y = 0, which gives you log 1 = 0 in the original equation. So the solution is based on the notion that for the equation to be non-trivial, y + x y = 0.

Incidentally, based on the hint in abel's post, I tried solving the differential equation, and I got
d y y = d x x
which yields
ln y = ln x + c y = k / x .
sveiparnu

sveiparnu

Beginner2022-08-30Added 5 answers

the only real solution for ln ( 1 + u ) = u is u = 0. so your equation implies x y = 0 , which in turn gives y = 0 identically. hence d y d x = 0.

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