I was going through a simple proof written for the existence of supremum. When I tried to write a sm

Kash Brennan

Kash Brennan

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2022-05-24

I was going through a simple proof written for the existence of supremum. When I tried to write a small example for the argument used in the proof, I got stuck. The proof is presented in Vector Calculus, Linear Algebra, And Differential Forms written by Hubbard. Here is the theorem.
Theorem: Every non-empty subset X R that has an upper bound has a least upper bound ( s u p X ).
Proof: Suppose we have x X and x 0. Also, suppose α is a given upper bound.
If x α, then there is a first j such that j t h digit of x is smaller than the j t h of α. Consider all the numbers in [ x , a ] that can be written using only j digits after the decimal, then all zeros. Let b j bt the largest which is not an upper bound. Now, consider the set of numbers [ b j , a ] that have only j + 1 digits after the decimal points, then all zeros.
The proof continues until getting b which is not an upper bound.
Now, let's assume that X = { 0.5 , 2 , 2.5 , , 3.23 } where 3.23 is the largest value in the set and α = 6.2. I select 2 as my x. Then, the value of j is one. Hence, the set is defined as [2.1,2.2.,⋯,2.9,6.2]. In this case, b j is 2.9.
If create a new set based on b j , doesn't that become [2.91,2.92.,⋯,2.99,6.2]. If so, b j + 1 = 2.99 and I'd just add extra digits behind this number. In other words, I'd never go to the next level. I am probably misinterpreting the proof statement.
Two important details after receiving some comments are as follows.
1. "By definition, the set of real numbers is the set of infinite decimals: expressions like 2.95765392045756..., preceded by a plus or a minus sign (in practice the plus sign is usually omitted). The number that you usually think of as 3 is the infinite decimal 3.0000... , ending in all zeroes."
2. "The least upper bound property of the reals is often taken as an axiom; indeed, it characterizes the real numbers, and it sits at the foundation of every theorem in calculus. However, at least with the description above of the reals, it is a theorem, not an axiom."

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barbesdestyle2k

barbesdestyle2k

Beginner2022-05-25Added 10 answers

Using the proof in Hubbard and your example.
x=2 and a=6.2. 2 < 6 so the first set to consider is {2,3,4,5,6}.
4 is an upper bound of x but 2,3 are not. So so b 0 = 3 which is the largest that is not an upper bound.
j=1 and we consider all the numbers between b 0 = 3 and a=6.2 with one decimal where we consider j=1 decimal point. That set is {2.1,2.2,2.3,.........,6.0,6.1,6.2}.
3.3 is an upper bound of X but 3.2 is not. So b 1 = 3.2.
Now for j=2 we consider all the numbers between 3.2 and 6.2 with two decimals. That set is {3.20,3.21,3.22,...........6.19,6.20}. Now 3.23 is an upper bound but 3.22 is not. So b 2 = 3.22.
So consider 3 decimals 3.220,.......,6.199,6.200 and get b 3 = 3.229.
Then for we consider 3.290,3.291,.....,6.1999,6.20 and b4=3.299 and so on b 5 = 3.2999....And supX is 3.22999999999.......=3.23

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